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song I can't sing anymore/the sun ain't gone shine anymore

 
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Booklover



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:04 am    Post subject: song I can't sing anymore/the sun ain't gone shine anymore Reply with quote

My American friend has a question.... : In ' mutual friend ' Neil sings ' we sang a song I can't sing anymore ..' in another live version of this song he sings ' the sun ain't gone shine anymore '.

Now my friend wonders whether he can't sing ' the sun ain't gone shine anymore ' because this line is from the Walker Brothers....or whether he means he can't sing the song anymore because it reminds him of that special moment with that girl....

what do you think ?
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Benny J



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both.
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Phil



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

definitely both. that's why it's so great!
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geotune



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:14 am    Post subject: Walker Bros. quote Reply with quote

Booklover, I was wondering if "the song I can't sing anymore" means that the walker bros. financial advisors asked Neil to stop performing the walkers' tune.
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Benny J



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's more likely to be Parlophone / Natalie saying "we really can't afford to pay the writer of that song 10%, Neil".
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Zeyneb



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benny J wrote:
It's more likely to be Parlophone / Natalie saying "we really can't afford to pay the writer of that song 10%, Neil".


I think that's the explanation, too.
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Black Sheep Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think he has to pay a royalty for just for mentioning the song title,
but he does nick a bit of the melody when he sings the lyric.
I bet when he does both at the same time,
that is when he is responsible for a royalty.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So would Parlophone/Neil have to pay royalties from the DVD then cos he sings The Sun Aint Gonna Shine Anymore on that. And No-One Knows of course.
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drykid



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it give songwriting credits at the end of the DVD? If it credits OMF to anyone else besides NH, then that's probably a sign that the royalties are being shared out. But it may just be that the lawyers have OKed it as not being a problem since the album was released.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the inlay card it credits Our Mutual Friend to Neil Hannon and no-one else. So you must be right I guess!
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LivingForever



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for dragging up an old topic and sorry if this has been answered 100 times...

My memory may be faulty, but I *swear* that when I bought the 'Absent Friends' CD the day it came out, the line "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore", with the "real" tune was present and correct.

I subsequently bought the French edition with the bonus CD, and sold off my original CD... it was only a few months later that I realised that they had "changed" the lyrics and melody of that line.

Since then I have been trying to find a copy of the CD with the "proper" line but I have so far failed - both the UK regular CD I now have, and the Promo CD (which I thought *must* have the proper line), have the "altered" line instead.

Am I going crazy, or does the "proper" studio version exist?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not ignoring you, just researching. Be back soon.
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