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Favourite album: go on, stick yer neck out
Liberation
2%
 2%  [ 2 ]
Promenade
35%
 35%  [ 28 ]
Casanova
12%
 12%  [ 10 ]
A Short Album About Love
13%
 13%  [ 11 ]
Fin de Siecle
10%
 10%  [ 8 ]
Regeneration
13%
 13%  [ 11 ]
Absent Friends
12%
 12%  [ 10 ]
Total Votes : 80

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rachel2205



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Witch wrote:
CD WOW has told me to expect my copy of Absent Friends in 5-7 days.



CD Wow dispatched mine today...

To be honest, I'm glad I didn't get it this week, as I wouldn't have been able to think about it at all. Frantic times!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

msboyd wrote:
I'm also voting for Absent Friends -- I suppose I'm a bit peculiar as Fin is probably my favorite after Promenade, then Liberation, but something about the new one really just works perfectly for me.

It could also have something to do with being nearly 30.


Promenade has always been my favorite ...
But I feel Absent Friends is THE music that "suits" me and that I like now that I'm going to be 33 (in 2 days ...).
But it doesn't mean Neil Hannon is making music only for old people like me Laughing Shocked Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, before this topic slides away completely, here are the results:

FIRST:
Promenade - 20 votes - far and away the winner
JOINT 2ND:
ASAAL and Regeneration, surprisingly - 8 votes each
4TH:
Absent Friends 7
JOINT FIFTH:
Casanova and Fin, 6 each
7TH:
Liberation - only 2, sniff


Total Votes : 57

Anyone surprised by them?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nope. boring promenade lot.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the kind of vote that's almost impossible - to look at that you'd think Liberation was unloved, when nothing could be further from the truth! I feel a bit sorry for it now. Next time, put an 'All of Them!' option! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah but then you'd have them winos whining for an 'all of them except regeneration' option Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget the 'all of them except Fanfare' option..
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

airboy paul wrote:
ah but then you'd have them winos whining for an 'all of them except regeneration' option Very Happy


Yeah, but they don't count 'cos they're stupid!
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Saruman Returns



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh poor neglected Fin de Siecle

Someone still loves you!

(i.e. me)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Promenade... what else? it's flipping sublime. it's genius. it's beautiful. it makes you smile and dance around and look like a big fool as you're imitating Le Hannon in your car.
Fin is second, but the difference betwixt Prom & Fin is akin to the difference between how you like your best mate or your partner.. you don't wanna shag your best mate Smile with Fin it's strictly best friends. I'd let it down gently mind.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord of the Badgers wrote:
you don't wanna shag your best mate Smile .


Oooh, I dunno...

Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

god promenade is NOT the best... too many joke songs on it..classics too but..ya
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clairebarcelona



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iadmit it, I just had to vote for A Short Album About Love. Oi love it! They're all fantastic, but I think this one really has the edge, apart from it being, er, TOO short! How about a long album about love next time?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Count me among the "'Promenade' snobs."

I didn't procure "Promenade" until later on, and it did take quite a while to grow on me. However, once it did, I realized it was Neil's "best" work and his most solid, cohesive statement. The whole affair just flows effortlessly and, for my money, features his most evocative, sophisticated music. Some might argue ASAAL is better in that respect, but I disagree. (ASAAL is definitely my least favorite TDC album.)

One of the things I like best about Neil's music is his ability to transport the listener to another place and time. No TDC album does that better for me than "Promenade." Okay, so it's a bit of a "pipe and slippers" album...but that's precisely why I love it. In a way, it creates its own universe.

I'm also consistently baffled by the fact that "Promenade" came out in 1994. It is so far removed from the mainstream music of that era...especially the scene here in America! I really wish I would have heard it when it came out. It definitely would have been a breath of fresh air.

The overwhelming support for "Absent Friends" troubles me. I feel it's too new to view objectively. Oh, I like it a lot, but I think we should hold off a bit before we proclaim it his "best ever!"
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rachel2205 wrote:
Well, before this topic slides away completely, here are the results:

7TH:
Liberation - only 2, sniff


Ya'know it's like my great Grandma Enchilada always says, "Billy Bob, what's popular isn't always right & what's right isn't always popular, and that includes that fine Divine Comedy album Liberation. You tell that child Rachel you got her back."
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come Home Billy Bob wrote:

Ya'know it's like my great Grandma Enchilada always says, "Billy Bob, what's popular isn't always right & what's right isn't always popular, and that includes that fine Divine Comedy album Liberation. You tell that child Rachel you got her back."

Were those words of profundity first uttered quietly, yet with great conviction, at an intimate table situated near the kitchen in this; her fine establishment?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come Home Billy Bob wrote:
rachel2205 wrote:
Well, before this topic slides away completely, here are the results:

7TH:
Liberation - only 2, sniff


Ya'know it's like my great Grandma Enchilada always says, "Billy Bob, what's popular isn't always right & what's right isn't always popular, and that includes that fine Divine Comedy album Liberation. You tell that child Rachel you got her back."


Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Universal* wrote:

Were those words of profundity first uttered quietly, yet with great conviction, at an intimate table situated near the kitchen in this; her fine establishment?


How did you know?!?!?!!?

Here's a closeup of the sign on the restaurant window:


Shes always had a wierd sense of humor

( for our non-spanish speaking friends: zapatos = shoes)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

S. Baldrick wrote:
The overwhelming support for "Absent Friends" troubles me.


Well, it's a brilliant record. It doesn't always take years to come to that conclusion!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can kind of see the point: all the other albums can be seen from a sufficient distance that their strengths and failings are easier to appreciate, along with where exactly they fall in the progression of NH's career. Which I don't really think is possible yet in the case of AF. So to me the poll would make more sense if it didn't include AF. But hey, that's just my opinion Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're all wrong. Even those that are right.

But since only I can be right, that makes you all wrong.

Especially those voting for Regen: I mean, there's wrong, and there's just wrong...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I think everyone needs to listen to AF for a while before they decide it's the BESTEVA!!!1!!, but hey - maybe it's love at first listen.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

S. Baldrick wrote:

I'm also consistently baffled by the fact that "Promenade" came out in 1994. It is so far removed from the mainstream music of that era...especially the scene here in America! I really wish I would have heard it when it came out. It definitely would have been a breath of fresh air.


yep. pretty much sums it up.

as for 'joke' songs, i disagree. The album has a persona certainly. It's only really A Drinking Song that could grate with some, but i remember Neil saying that, circa Casanova, he always like to have a 'difficult' song on an album (hence Charge (which i loathe)).
That said, I love a bit of theatrics in my music - and i love A Drinking Song (great to bawl along to in the car). Promenade came at a time when i was feeling musically very stagnant. Nothing had truly grabbed me for ages. This did.

If i had any complaints about Prom, it'll be that Going Downhill Fast is too short and could have been developed more, it's such a great song.. it bugs me a little that it stops before i feel it should.

But that's a minor thing.

I am a little surprised by the apparent lack of support for Fin. That's easily my second fav, with ASAAL third.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was listening to Fin for the first time in ages the other day - to convert a friend to the beauty of Certainty - and thought "this really is a great album." I'd almost forgotten.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloody Promenade.. Yes, it's good, yes, it's beautiful but AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

It makes me feel thick. I only get about five of the Booklovers references and I'd never even considered the whole Catholic or Protestant implications of Don't Look Down..

I'm thick.. Sad

Just Another Product Of A Modern Comprehensive Edukation

I've gone for:

1/ Casanova
2/ Regeneration
3/ A Short Album About Love
4/ Promenade
5/ Fin De Siecle
6/ Liberation

Absent Friends yet to find a place as I stupidly ordered it in the middle of the night on Weds and they won't despatch over Easter weekend. D'oh! I like what I've heard though..
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, not thick. Society's changed. Plus you haven't been around long enough to get exposed to that stuff. Luckily you have The Divine Comedy around to point you in that direction. Had it not been for TDC's influence, I may never have read/watched Room With A View. Hell, Hannon is Generation Sex's EM Forester, so you're set!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with you on that one, I found myself smirking at the "My father says.." bit. That is a beautiful film though. One of my favourites of all time. Anyway, I know I'm not thick, just wish I was a bit more learned, if that makes sense. Not too much though, or I'll end up like that strange old man my mum kissed every five years as my sister and I were growing up.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come Home Billy Bob wrote:
Hell, Hannon is Generation Sex's EM Forester, so you're set!


Works of art, in my opinion, are the only objects in the material universe to possess internal order, and that is why, though I don't believe that only art matters, I do belive in Art for Art's sake.
- E. M. Forester

If I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country.
- E. M. Forester

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Promenade
2. Liberation
3. Fin De Siecle ('twould be second if not for Eric The Gardener)
4. Absent Friends
5. A Short Album About Love




10. Regeneration
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cjmacs wrote:
Come Home Billy Bob wrote:
Hell, Hannon is Generation Sex's EM Forester, so you're set!


Works of art, in my opinion, are the only objects in the material universe to possess internal order, and that is why, though I don't believe that only art matters, I do belive in Art for Art's sake.
- E. M. Forester

"The world will be wonderful", they say; but from whose viewpoint? We need to live in a state of suspended animation, like a work of art; in a state of enchantment... detached. Detached. - N. Hannon
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If I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country.
- E. M. Forester

Who cares where national borders lie
Who cares whose laws you're governed by
Who cares what name you call a town.... - N. Hannon
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Come Home Billy Bob wrote:
"The world will be wonderful", they say; but from whose viewpoint? We need to live in a state of suspended animation, like a work of art; in a state of enchantment... detached. Detached. - N. Hannon


I'd always assumed that was just a translation of the La Dolce Vita sample that is included on the original version of Fin. I'm not sure whether that particular dialogue in La Dolce Vita is by the writers of the movie (fellini et al) or a quotation of something else. Been a while since I saw the movie. Anyway, NH still has excellent taste in his use of quotes.
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Yeah...I've always wondered if those were his own words. I'd be interested in knowing the source. La Dolce Vita, you say?
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Come Home Billy Bob wrote:
Yeah...I've always wondered if those were his own words. I'd be interested in knowing the source. La Dolce Vita, you say?


Yeah, spoken by Alain Cuny's character, I believe.
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sunrise's my favourite songs!!! BUT MY FAVOURITE album is as you know R E G E N !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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